Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computer Security

Merge proposal at Norton 360

I have created a merge proposal at Norton 360 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Tule-hog (talk) 08:26, 7 July 2024 (UTC)

FAR for Microsoft Security Essentials

I have nominated Microsoft Security Essentials for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets the featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" in regards to the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Sohom (talk) 15:29, 8 July 2024 (UTC)

(computer security) disambiguator

I have brought the threat and vulnerability articles in line with exploit in their use of (computer security) as a disambiguator; they previously used (computer) and (computing), respectively. This is justified by the cohesion of IT risk management (with the threat, vulnerability, and exploit terminology) as a unified practice. Noting here in case this is not desired. Tule-hog (talk) 19:50, 15 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Kaspersky bans and allegations of Russian government ties#Requested move 23 July 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Kaspersky bans and allegations of Russian government ties#Requested move 23 July 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. RodRabelo7 (talk) 01:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

WikiProject Risk invitation

This is a formal invitation to help build out the new WikiProject Risk, which has substantial overlap with this WikiProject. Those interested in IT management, Information management, Information security management, IT risk management, etc. may find like-minded editors there. Tule-hog (talk) 02:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:Arrest of Pavel Durov#Requested move 28 August 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Arrest of Pavel Durov#Requested move 28 August 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. TarnishedPath^talk 05:13, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

User status 2024

Just hit a decade since the last participant activity check (original suggestion).

This section is created for users to state their status as active or inactive for the project. Please be sure to update your status to keep it active. Feel free to use the example below. Older participant feel free to advise on best way to bump the notice.

This list may be used as a demonstration of inactivity of the WikiProject.

• Active Tule-hog 20:30, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

User status discussion

This is a separate post to discuss the merits of the User status list.

From what I understand, at least 10 active users qualify as an active WikiProject. There are almost 80 users listed, but with very little activity. If that threshold is not met within a reasonable time frame (say, by the end of 2024?), it might be time to either mark the project as inactive or transform it into a taskforce of WikiProject Computing.

Critical to my reasoning is that a change would make coordinating the few editors interested in CompSec easier, not more convoluted - if in your experience, these kinds of transitions tend to garble rather than help, I would appreciate recommendations on whether or not to continue with this process. I am thinking that a taskforce of Computing makes the most sense, but I also imagine that could just add extra administrative work in the long run if the taskforce ever grows back out into a full project.

Additionally, I'm not sure if I should do more to draw attention to the list. I put a short {{notice}} on the main page; I wouldn't want to spam users, but also understandably few participants are actively monitoring the talk page where the actual discussion is. Tule-hog (talk) 00:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

Your roll call is a bit unusual and so I wasn't immediately clear what was going on. I've trimmed participant lists on projects in the past but just based on observed inactivity on Wikipedia as a whole e.g. mark them inactive if they've done no editing in the past year.

I already see WP:COMPSEC as dependent in some form or WP:COMP. Whether it is standalone, a child project or a task group doesn't seem to be of much practical consequence.

It is difficult to gauge the vitality of a project or task group or whatever. I'm not sure what you hope to achieve by marking it inactive but I will oppose that because I am still active. It's fine if you want to mark it semi-active but, as with your roll call and project hierarchy proposal, I'm not sure what you hope to accomplish by changing designation. ~Kvng (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

From what I gathered on WP:TF, the only possible benefits to a taskforce conversion would be:

1. {{WikiProject Computer Security}} is made a parameter of WP:COMP's banner, which results in

2. Automatically merged article alerts in the main project, so more editors notified

However, given WP:COMPSEC's considerable work on 'political'/non-computing-centric articles that might be opposed by WP:COMP in the first place.

The only reasoning to mark inactive would be to centralize work into WP:COMP; on further thought the taskforce conversion is the only option that makes sense, if any at all.

I will strike the status list and trim the list based on activity (on Wikimedia as a whole) in the last 2 years if you/any other participants could confirm that is justified. Tule-hog (talk) 20:41, 11 September 2024 (UTC)

We already have |security= and |security-importance= on {{WikiProject Computing}}. At this point, security seems to be both a task force and a standalone project. You're welcome to clean this up if we have consensus on how to do so. I would support closing down the standalone project in favor of the task force because I can't justify having both and I think you're right, we'll have more participation on security topics as a task force.

WP:COMP must get alerts from {{WikiProject Computing}} articles marked with |security=yes. I'm not sure if WP:COMP gets alerts from {{WikiProject Computer Security}}.

2 years of Wikipedia inactivity is more generous than necessary IMO but I won't quibble about it. ~Kvng (talk) 15:50, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

It looks like we may have the same task force/standalone project duality with WP:COMPSCI and WP:SOFTWARE so we probably should discuss this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Computing before proceeding. ~Kvng (talk) 15:56, 12 September 2024 (UTC)

Most articles tagged with WP:CSEC are already tagged with WP:COMPSCI or WP:ELECTRONICS depending on the topic area, I don't really see the benefit of doing the switcharoo in the first place. Also, I concur with Kvng that I don't see the project as inactive, it is definitely lower in activity, but that's probably expected in this kind of a nicher topic area from time to time. Sohom (talk) 23:45, 15 September 2024 (UTC)